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i hate tgp's already i get denied by most of them they dont give the reasons why then they blacklist you my abhost got blacklisted and i dont know why its the first time i did this? they all have there own stupid rules that you literally have to make a gallery just for that site. i made my gallery nice and simple arrggg!!!!!!!!!!!!only a good sum of tgp's took my site the rest declined this sucks.
this is a nice cleaned up version on how i really feel :evil: :?
babydred
03-29-2004, 05:15 AM
The ones that were declined...did you click on their site name in the list to find out why? If you click on their names, they'll tell you why you were declined!
...some you have to manually submit to ( the hun for one )
...some you have to click on to confirm
...some you have to be a partner
...some have other reasons
Find out why before you go flying off the handle...i knew you'd get declined in some...take a deep breath and take your time...patience...
that's why i told you to read the directions on the tgpwizards site, for the reasons i listed above.
Aussiemade
03-29-2004, 07:55 AM
G'day XPC,
What was the URL you submitted? Let's see if we can't work out why you got rejected?
http://xpc.adultbouncerhost.com
its not spectacular its plain and to the point id like to add more but i dont see the point if people are just wanting to see pictures.im not saying ill abandon tgp's its just for a first timer u can see how frustrating it is to be denied by so many.
yes i had to manually submit to 57 sites and 30 from e-mail to conferm though i have to wait to see if i make it and if i do thats a plus. most tgp's want you to sign up or be partners other just give a reason of they dont like ur code but they dont say what in ur code thats not accepted. i could go on with all the reasons ive seen but im tired i made a few sales thats a plus i just dont know where they came from most likely from ab since i just got listed. ive read everything maybe im adding categorys i dont belong in. i check general, amatuer, teen, i forgot what else.
time to sleep................zzZZZzzzz..........
Aussiemade
03-29-2004, 08:56 AM
Mate,
I think I know what your problem is. Not many TGP's, Good TGP's, will list galleries of Vidcaps. Sometimes you can make some decent galleries from Vidcaps, but in the main the quality is sub standard.
If you've had some sign-ups from that gallery, then think yourself lucky! :D
Shoot me through an e-mail and I'll give you some Pic's to make galleries from.
darnpj
03-29-2004, 03:22 PM
Wow XPC,
First Aussie is correct MOST of the HQ tgp's will not accept vidcaps, and also they require a recip unless you are submitting to a tgps that does not require a recip. Also I understand that you are trying for the simple look but I myself would say cut down the size of your thumbz, way to big and that will hurt your in your load time.
Here is a simple and clean gallery that I have submitted to over 100 tgps and that includes the hun and I added a text recip to it and he posted it NP http://www.innocent-teens.net/tgp/sheplay/index.html and i have also submitt3ed it clean also with out any recips. Take your time and dont let the fact that your are either not being accepted or speaking for me and my tgp's I get over 500 submits a day and it takes a while for me to list.
Maybe try a 30 day trial of Arles Gallery Maker it will create GOOD galleries and you can manipulate the proggy to what the tgps or mgps are wanting , stick in there and you will get your style down and get plenty of post. 8) Luck
AB-Rob
03-29-2004, 03:44 PM
You can also use a domain name to point to your ABHOST Account.
What do TGP/MGP usually ban sites on? URL? IP?
babydred
03-29-2004, 04:20 PM
You can also use a domain name to point to your ABHOST Account.
Could i use something like: http://dreadlocksheat.com/movies/ to point to galleries on my ABHost?
Or do i have to get a separate dotcom?
Aussiemade
03-29-2004, 04:21 PM
What do TGP/MGP usually ban sites on? URL? IP?
Depends on the Software they're using. Someone like the Hun can Ban on IP, which can be a real Pain! :shock: Some even Ban the NameServers, which means "Dead Duck" :!:
Some even Ban the Submitter's IP, it really does depend.
In the main though, most TGP's Ban on the URL, so a change of Domain Name will help heaps. I'm a little Surprised XPC got Banned, the Gallery wasn't all that bad ....... Well, not so bad He deserved to be Banned. :?:
babydred
03-29-2004, 04:35 PM
:?: XPC,
Why is your tgp on the ABHost server? :?
:!: You could host your tgps on your preview server (not the prv.xpc) and eliminate waiting up to 2 hours for the changes to take. :wink:
darnpj
03-29-2004, 04:43 PM
Yes Aussie,
They have a number of options as to how they blacklist nowadays. i myself hate to blacklist and only do it when all else has failed and i usually give a warning b4. Your right the gallery is not that bad , but he was probably blacklisted because of the url. If he only submitted what he is showuing most have a very good script that will look for many things like the hun when you submit and it goes thru it will show you the path.
As in the if you only submitted a url and nothing else they may blacklist that or should I say the SCRIPT blacklisted the gallery because it did not give the correct path. I have NEVER had a ab gallery blacklisted because of the free host, but some out there do not accept free host and others are tired of getting galleries that are substandard and set the script to rigid sunmittal rules.
If he is blacklisted by ip he is pretty much done, unless he has access to multiple ip's. I blacklist by ip myself because all they have to do is change the url and resubmit the very same gallery. Im real sorry that XPC 1st time at the tgp's was bad but keep it up and submit to the ones that have accepted your galleries. Most purge the blacklist every 30 days i think.
8) Luck
Hey Dred you got the number now m8, i dont have a abhost acct I submit my mgp's thru a server I pay for and submit my pic galleries thru my preview.
babydred
03-29-2004, 04:59 PM
Yes Aussie,
They have a number of options as to how they blacklist nowadays. i myself hate to blacklist and only do it when all else has failed and i usually give a warning b4. Your right the gallery is not that bad , but he was probably blacklisted because of the url. If he only submitted what he is showuing most have a very good script that will look for many things like the hun when you submit and it goes thru it will show you the path.
As in the if you only submitted a url and nothing else they may blacklist that or should I say the SCRIPT blacklisted the gallery because it did not give the correct path. I have NEVER had a ab gallery blacklisted because of the free host, but some out there do not accept free host and others are tired of getting galleries that are substandard and set the script to rigid sunmittal rules.
If he is blacklisted by ip he is pretty much done, unless he has access to multiple ip's. I blacklist by ip myself because all they have to do is change the url and resubmit the very same gallery. Im real sorry that XPC 1st time at the tgp's was bad but keep it up and submit to the ones that have accepted your galleries. Most purge the blacklist every 30 days i think.
8) Luck
Hey Dred you got the number now m8, i dont have a abhost acct I submit my mgp's thru a server I pay for and submit my pic galleries thru my preview.
This is why i figure if he submits his pic galleries through his preview server there is a less chance of being blacklisted...
ABHost has been blacklisted on a few tgp/mgp's (due to movie speed issues)...but the regular xpc.ab.com has a better chance of getting through with np. :wink:
Aussiemade
03-29-2004, 05:41 PM
Interesting.
The script I run is very powerful. (I've seen some posts here mentioning it, so I guess a few AB Webmasters use it too).
I don't normally Ban by Submitter IP, because so many use Proxies and the IP is Bullshit. :shock:
I can see the DNS Server, Server IP and Submitter's IP. You'd be surprised how many people submit under different names, with different IP's, but the same Domain IP and DNS. (Makes me chuckle sometimes). :wink:
The Script recognises 404's, 302's, changes in the thumbnail count, and I can Ban on Words, HTML, Submitter's IP, Domain IP, DNS Server, URL, e-mail address and what colour Undies they're wearing. OK, maybe not the Undies part. :wink:
I can get the Script to Scan the Databases and detect 302's, 404's, changes ......... You get the drift. It's a brilliant bit of software and it's taken a whole lot of pain out of running a TGP.
As for Warnings? Well, Cheats are Cheats and there's just too many of them out there to warn. I've got one Bloke who runs a submission script and I get 50 to 300 hits a day from him.
XPC just needs to have a look around at some other Galleries, to get an idea of what's acceptable.
Dred, I'm really glad you've optimised those Images of yours, they were HUGE before! :wink:
darnpj
03-29-2004, 06:34 PM
Very True Aussie,
But by warning I mean I deny the gallery and then email the submitter. And as far as the ppl who will slam you with the auto-submitters. LOL we both know that they can and will fill up your database with the very same galleries over and over again.
And as far as blacklisting it is a very smart idea to use the blacklist as a method to let other cheaters know that you will not take the BS they try time after time to lay on you. I hate them with a passion and I had one script that i opened the site one day and the VERY next I had 5k in submittals all from auto-submitters. I can see a auto-sub by the fact that they USUALLY have numbers sequence in the gallery url and i dont even open them. You have posted some of my galleries Aussie and I try to make sure that my gallery is HQ in all aspects of it, pics, text, color, etc.
And XPC will find his way of submitting and the style of his galleries with help from more exp. webmasters and from looking at what the tgp he is submitting to has in its post. I can see a tgp's galleries and tell if it is a good one or just a traffic monster that has NO good traffic at all. I remember when i first started i about went crazy getting my galleries accepted. But i have learned to give HQ and get a name for your self and your style of gallery. And i only submit to 50 on a regular basis and they are all good tgp's and give me what i want CONVERSIONS!
And running a tgp is not as much fun as most ppl think and i have read and heard from more than one sucessful webmaster that if you dont do over 100k in traffic you will not make any money. Aussie you are a smart and helpful webmaster which is what we need more of on this forum. 8) Luck M8
well when i first posted to one tgp that blacklisted me i was using sexplanet because i didnt have abhost and sexplanet is blacklisted in a lot of tgp's obviously and i didnt know that so i got my abhost but when i resubmitted it said my abhost was blacklisted it might just be my ip they blacklisted which sucks but i didnt know sexplanet was not liked. :(
i dont understand when i upload my stuff to abhost its updated right away so i dont know what u mean by having to wait. i just got rejected by one tgp i just check my e-mail the only reason was the poor quality of the full images i think it was from richards realm or something like that they give you the reason and still give you a chance to fix the problem and resubmit which is good. the recips are there im using a tgp sbmitter thing that gives u a code to insert and automaticly puts the recip in for you.
im not giving up i just need to adjust my mistakes and make my gallery better. thanks to everyone for all the help sorry i sound so dumb but i never done this tgp thing so im still learning.
darnpj
03-29-2004, 07:16 PM
WellXPC,
There it is, the poor quality of your bg pics. But Richards Realm is a tough one to get into believe me. And the best thing you can do is read the rules b4 you submit because tgp submitters are frowned on by more and more of the top tgp's. Invest in some good quality pic sets and dont use the captures from the movies. Or as Aussie said he would help you out with some, either way you will get it.
Try this list of sites that i have used for years and it may help you with submitting http://www.traffic-list.com/teen_tgp.html and the very best of luck to you in the future! 8)
thanks ill use that list ill chop down my thumbs for my gallery and my site which im doing now.
boob butler
03-29-2004, 09:05 PM
You can also use a domain name to point to your ABHOST Account.
What do TGP/MGP usually ban sites on? URL? IP?
i ban by domain ip and dns server on my mgp. so one bad apple will spoil the whole basket unfortunately
of course i don't ban adultbouncerhost myself but others are more trigger happy
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