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AB-Rob
10-02-2003, 04:06 PM
Someone asked can you use DivX to encode the movies, answer is NO.
Nobody is to use DivX codec to encode movies, anyone doing so will be suspended period.
DivX is a codec that requires licensing by them and they dont have any ascceptable licenses.
WMV 9 kills DivX by far.
Project-Shadow
10-02-2003, 04:16 PM
So what if the movies we have already uploaded are encoded in DivX?
screw divx , we dont need them :?
AB-Rob
10-02-2003, 04:38 PM
You should change it, DivX is banned from our system unless of course you license their technology.
They charge by the minute of encoding i think lol.
Sure her eis $5000.00 for 1 minute clip.
auch!! project you better change them ;)
smutstack
10-02-2003, 07:17 PM
DP seemed to run some deal where they re-encoded all the movies directly on the server...any chance AB could consider something like this?
Movie Guy
10-02-2003, 08:06 PM
here's what happened: divx contacted me because my site was using their codec. I asked them if I could license their tech. They said no. They asked me if AB has ever used divx and they were anti-AB in the conversation. I told them, AB has NEVER used their divx codec (for a while, the old, hacked codec was used however). I told them, "I don't know if you have any deals with DP, but they've been using your codec for a while". A few days later, DP tells all its members that they will scan their servers and force re-encode all the files.
We are referring to divx 4.x and up, not the old 3.11. Even so, you do not need to use divx in any incarnation. If you must use avi, then use ms-mpeg4v2. Otherwise, WMV is the better alternative.
p.s. no need to thank me for hurting our competition. :)
johnuk
10-02-2003, 08:23 PM
MovieGuy, alot of us AB guys are also DP guys. :|
AB-Rob
10-02-2003, 08:39 PM
Well its not that easy unless we're running windows.
they mgiht be saying that just to get DivX off their back because to "re-encode" via unix is funny let alone getting the setting right
your output would be awful doing it liek that *IF* it exists
but bottom line when we were using DivX is was the old non-licensable version 3.11 after that luckily we stopped.
DivX is Anti-* because we wouldnt use their codec and promote their product at the same time. No thanks. Theyre trying to bully.
smutstack
10-02-2003, 08:52 PM
yeah, the notion that they are actually trying to turn their codec into a viable business plan astonishes and delights me. Hope it works out!
AB-Rob
10-02-2003, 10:48 PM
Ha!
Microsoft swallow them up like bad penis pill.
MovieResort
10-03-2003, 07:29 AM
Moviesguy do you convert all your movies to wmv now or what ?
industry
10-03-2003, 09:10 AM
Moviesguy do you convert all your movies to wmv now or what ?
I'd like to know it too :roll:
Project-Shadow
10-03-2003, 05:13 PM
Can we use XviD instead? :D
divxmike
10-03-2003, 07:58 PM
after we have sent thousands of surfers to download their shit, that is what they told me:
We've recently noticed that you are currently featuring DivX Video technology in your services and using the DivX name on your website. Unfortunately, we do not have a record of a license allowing you to do so, currently placing you in violation of our trademark and licensing policy. Please contact me immediately to resolve this issue. This is one of three emails. If a response is not received by the third email, the matter will be forwarded to our legal department
when i asked them wether they claim to own divx 3.11 the said:
DivX 3.11 is not a codec that is affiliated with our company. If you are using DivX 3.11 you may do so free of charge, at your own discretion. However, DivX, itself, is tradmarked and it is unacceptable to refer to DivX if you have not obtained permission from DivXNetworks to do so. In addition, creating a logo infringes upon this trademark as well. Please remove all references to DivX on your site ASAP. If you have any questions, please let me know and I will have the legal deparment provide you with information on trademarking
anyway, because of a shitty codec provider i had to rename my site, edit the graphics, and i lost all my incoming links and bookmarkers.
Now i will recommend to every surfer not to download this crap, and the next thing is to get a new nick.
arg2000
10-04-2003, 03:33 AM
how about using xvid?
do you think the wmv9 is better than xvid?
masteryoshidino
10-04-2003, 04:25 AM
wmv9 can compress better than xvid solely because it can vary the framerate just like the newest RV codec. other than that there is not much difference but encoding in WMV9 is SLOW.
Movie Guy
10-04-2003, 04:52 AM
I am using ms-mpeg4v2 for avi files.
arg2000
10-05-2003, 01:47 AM
so movieguy, what programs do you use?
virture dub and wm-encoder9?
Movie Guy
10-05-2003, 09:35 AM
I use the GordianKnot package to rip and frameserve the material to either nandub for SBC encoding (divx 3.11 or ms-mpeg4 avi) or windows media encoder 9 for WMV. Right now, I'm strictly using avi because my members and the MGP community prefer it. But WMV is definitely superior.
mrcock
10-11-2003, 10:57 PM
I just knew that. You 'd better send an email to everybody.
nexusvideo
10-15-2003, 02:51 AM
All this divx nonsense got me interested in the new wmv9. turns out your can encoded wmv9 files into avi format using software like virtual dub. This got me excited until I actually tried it. It took 30 hours to encode a 2 hour flick with 2 pass encoding. (1.8ghz P4 processor with 640 megs ram and a 80 gig 7200 rpm harddrive with 8mb cache) After that horrible wait the damn video was unusable. It dropped almost every other frame. How the hell can it drop frames when the files are hosted on the harddrive to begin with? The picture quality was excellent though and may have potential when i upgrade to a state of the art processor next year.
Xvid produces some acceptable results with no dropped frames. It encodes about 30 percent slower than divx311a and really sucks on interlaced source material (you must deinterlace your source). They give you too many damn choices with these new codecs. Without some indepth guide to the actual use and need for the features; they are useless. I know I dont want to spend days trying out every possible setting for an encode.
AB-Rob
10-15-2003, 08:57 AM
Bottom line is we dont use DivX :)
We use WMV. Anyone using Div-X shouldnt be using it unless its version 3.11 or before.
It's just like using unlicensed content, stay away from it :)
Bottom line is we dont use DivX :)
We use WMV. Anyone using Div-X shouldnt be using it unless its version 3.11 or before.
It's just like using unlicensed content, stay away from it :)
hehehe..you just stole my thunder Rob ;)
for those of you freaking out because you have some older files encoded with 3.11 alpha..relax. 8) 3.11 was a beta version of the codec. Divx never offered licensing for this version, thus making it available for free trial use without licensing. ANYTHING encoded with versions 4 or higher though will get you in deep shit...so get rid of it. Divx isn't kidding around. They were offered a substantial sum of money for the use of their codecs through licensing by another internet entity and they TURNED IT DOWN. If you're using licensed AB content, then you have no worries anyways. 8)
korny
10-30-2003, 12:53 PM
2 question.
Can I use .avi when my codec is
A)divx 3.11
B)ms-mpeg4(1,2,3)
or is format avi absolutly banned on AB??
and is format MPG ok??
THx for answer.
darnpj
10-30-2003, 02:59 PM
Hey Korny,
I dont believe that AB supports .avi format and yes they do support mpg. So if you have avi might as well get rid of them also or change the format. 8) Luck!
masteryoshidino
10-30-2003, 07:19 PM
avi is fine as long as it is not divx licensed versions. this does NOT apply to anime fansubs. just to adult content.
all anime fansubs are exempt as they are not porn.
but this sounds like a bunch of baloney as anyone could use "FourCC changer" (from www.doom9.org software page) and hack the header to whatever they want. i had to hack some avi of fansubs at times because the encoder did the encode with false "divx" header when they used XVID and will play back wrong on certain dx50 codecs or with certain beta koepi build xvid dll's.
Movie Guy
10-30-2003, 10:41 PM
AVI is a file format. divx is a compression technology.
avi files are allowed so long as it doesn't use a licensed codec.
what is allowed:
1) divx 3.11
2) ms-mpeg4 v1,2,3
3) mpeg-1
4) wmv
5) xvid
6) 3vix is allowed so long as you have licensing agreement
7) quicktime (I believe)
what is not allowed:
1) divx 4.x or above (including divx 5.x)
2) any other codec requiring licensing
I have no idea what fansubs are, but NO VIDEO OF ANY KIND is allowed to have the divx 4.x-or-above codec on AB, whether it is anime or porn.
korny
10-31-2003, 08:32 AM
and what about
RM and ASF??
Movie Guy
10-31-2003, 01:37 PM
ANY FORMAT THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE LICENSING OR YOU HAVE OBTAINED LICENSING IS ALLOWED.
industry
10-31-2003, 04:02 PM
ANY FORMAT THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE LICENSING OR YOU HAVE OBTAINED LICENSING IS ALLOWED.
:lol:
_ :wink:
hajanoken
10-31-2003, 05:21 PM
does anyone hold the license for beta-max?
:o
haj
Mikie1
11-01-2003, 08:48 PM
Well, how the hell can you tell if the avi file is encoded with DIVX in the first place. I have a bunch of codecs installed and I can't tell which one is used when I play a movie.
Neo Beta
11-01-2003, 11:12 PM
Right click on the movie, go to properties..summary, down at the bottom look for video compression.
Kerubo
11-02-2003, 06:32 AM
use a program called gspot (2.21)... load a video file and it will tell you all the info you need (which codec is used, length, headers, etc etc)
Cpt
industry
11-02-2003, 08:25 AM
use a program called gspot (2.21)... load a video file and it will tell you all the info you need (which codec is used, length, headers, etc etc)
Cpt
:arrow: http://www.headbands.com/gspot/ :wink:
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