NEW 2257 LAW

[AB-Rob]

We are working on gathering all documentation required and making it available via the movie system.

[Honeysuckle]

Hmmm - will we have to keep copies of those documents ourselves or is it enough if we send the Feds your way?

Honeysuckle

[AB-Rob]

no you have to keep them on your end.

Theyll be in digital format just save them on your hard drive.
the new law requires YOU keep them. the older law allows someone else to keep them like a lawyer or something.

now the smurfs will come knockin on your door :P

i think its a ploy to make our lives miserable and to scare webmasters.

[AB-Rob]

A post from FSC

"The Free Speech Coalition will initiate litigation to seek an injunction against the law generally as well as specific parts of the regulatory scheme. While we are confident that we should receive injunctive relief of some sort, and are hopeful that such an injunction will be broadly based, there are no guarantees. We do not and cannot promise that an injunction will issue, and if it does, what components of the law and regulations will be covered."

Im sure Free Speech will get something. Lets not all get worried yet. What the DOJ is asking for is pretty large and will affect EVERYONE on the net. Its nearly impossible to get every single document. Plus the time to get it done will take years. PLUS do you actually think the studios still have these documents?

I feel sorry for sites like AEBN etc. They have 50000 DVDS. theyll need to rest a building 50000000 sq ft to accomodate the papers.

[MrC]

I see the new 2257 going through but i dont really see the secondary producer clause going threw, I dont know but that seems like a very large step, I mean if it happens I could give fuck all Ill make a access database and keep all the records just fine and get a voip phone for them to contact if they feel like being dicks and calling..

[AB-Rob]

haha problem here is getting ALL the documents.

and the time frame to get them all.

[darnpj]

Hey Rob,
I gotta say i agree 100% its just another word for witch hunts! Saw something on discovery that the US governmant is try to get into action and it literally in the search for terrorist they will use SPAM if you can believe it by seeing into what you buy,how you spend you time on the puter,literally all aspects of your personal life. Thank god that the senate approprations commitee shut down most of the money to these wise crackers or it could be worse much much worse! 8) Luck

[AB-Rob]

Haha exactly.

The administration is evil. Everyone knows that :)

They care for only their pockets and nobody else.

[kmdguy]

Any idea what kind of ETA on the model IDs and releases? We'll all need a little time to get them into our databases by the 23rd.

Thanks

[AB-Rob]

We will need to scan everything.

We hope to have everything by the 23rd but at the rate the studios are moving I hope free speech coalition does something quick.

The studios are moving slow in supplying these documents.

We will provide everything in digital format and make it available via the movie system.

[darnpj]

Lets hope they get the court injunction!? :shock: Luck To Us All

[AB-Rob]

Yup or hell will break lose.

[alex22]

Do we need to place a 2257 link at the bottom too?

also, where are they supposed to find our address to come and knock at our doors to ask for the documents?

[AB-Rob]

haha the new law states:
you need to have a copy of all the documents at YOUR address.

But since you are using Adultbouncer which is based in Canada you are ok.

You are using our content (if your usibnf content you bought elsewhere then you need to hold the records to those)

Only problem right now is there are USA MGP/TGP that wont accept submissions without those documents.

I need to know if this will be critical to you guys.

But all in all

IF YOUR PURCHASING YOUR OWN CONTENT. YOU KEEP THE RECORDS. IF YOUR USING OUR CONTENT YOU ARE OK. 2257 LAW DOES NOT APPLY TO CANADA, NOR WILL THEY APPLY IT HERE.

so everyone using adultbouncer is ok.

ive spoken to people about it already.

Your site is Hosted by Us. We provide the content through the movie saystem, anything above that provided by yourself then you need to hold records to that and keep a 2257 link with your address on those pages.

[slutland_2]

Hi Rob
Let me understand this right.
This means that everything continue as it is now for everything that is hosted by AB? I'll just add a link on my AB sites and all my galleries to this adress?:
http://www.adultbouncer.com/usc2257.php

There are AB webmasters that run small thumb mgp sites on cgi accounts or sexstorage accounts. If they list galleries with thumbs, will they then have to put 2257 statements on the main page for each thumb they list that is not an adultbouncerhosted gallery?

Will i have to put 2257 on this page for instance?
http://slutland.sexstorage.net/

I'm an european webmaster. Does this 2257 rule even apply to me?

Regards
Slut

[AB-Rob]

No it doesnt apply to european or canadian webmasters.

What you want to cehck thought is if USA comes after you, can you be extradited to the USA for porno issues.

if not then your good.

but basically. anywhere you use adult content there needs to be a 2257 link for that adult content you are using.

so for now just stick alink to our 2257 page on all your pages.

[Honeysuckle]

2257 LAW DOES NOT APPLY TO CANADA, NOR WILL THEY APPLY IT HERE.
so everyone using adultbouncer is ok.


I beg to differ. If you live in the States you have to observe the law of the US no matter where your site is hosted. What counts is your place of residence. Thank god I live in a place far far away...

Honeysuckle

[AB-Rob]

Hmm no alot of people are actually creating the envinment so the site is owned by the program and its operated by a webmaster on a commission bassis

[Honeysuckle]

So AB would be both primary and secondary producer according to the law (if it applied to you) as long as we host our sites here and only use Ab-host to promote our sites?

Honeysuckle

[darnpj]

Hey All,


I tell ya tho i have gotten some really wierd emails from content providers who are in like the chec republic and iam more or less being told Tough sHit(sorry for the curse) But i have spent good hard earned money on lotsa content and some have some how changed the ids ? Like i have some that i know for a fact that they had straight up pic ids and license and NOW I went to check on trying to get all this right and they have been Blacked OUT! How could they have access my PC and or changed all of the ids? Only for pics sets. And then you have the top HQ 1st class photogs some of whom have just DROPPED of the face of the earth and i cant find them and they did the old Keeper Of The Records and I cant find them either so lost content.
I emailed and its F>Y and we are not in the states and then there are some who are MORE woriied about models who are on the other side of the world from me and are saying the same! Its really getting bad i feel like the content providers are just trying to leave us in the dark.
Then i have some who have been absolutely GREAT and have gone out of their way to help and make sure i have all the info. I feel like i have done something and im being treated like a lepar. The provoders are gonna have too help if this is ever gonna be pulled off/. It makes me feel glad that i have used the GREAT content here on AB for like 95% of my AB sites and i may take the ones i do have of mine down just soo i dont worry about being hassled. They are straight up good content but who needs the hassle>? I feel that the law should hop on to the content providers also who will not honor the licenses and give us what is required by law! Sorry got carried away folks . Please forgive me for going on i have been really sick and this does not help!
But if it comes down to AB needing some xtra hands to sort out info or whatever JUST ASK! Thanks 8) Luck

[AB-Rob]

Yup we are trying to sort it out by getting all documentation but alot of the studios are waiting after June 23rd to see if the new 2257 law goes into affect or not.

If it does go into affect then alot of studios have mega work to do in order to get all those docs out to everyone or nobody will buy their contnet anymore.

[darnpj]

Very true Rob ,but will that stand up in a court of ;law? I mean its kinda like the ole checks in the mail and i sit in the can until some a--hole half way across the world takes time out from MAKING MONEY mind you> To do whats right? Its the waiting that sucks :twisted:

[AB-Rob]

Hmm depends which parts will stick up in court.

I dont think the entire 2257 will be thrown out, just the changes they ask for which is kinda broad and fucked up. Plus it conflicts with laws in other jurisdictions.

USA gets messed up more everyday.

[chillwill]

I love my country, but politicians screw it up. Me and a friend discussed this at length during election times. After seeing what Bush was after when he got his first term we knew if he made it back in we would be in a world of shit. America screwed itself. If we had gotten off our asses and got rid of him we would not be dealing with this bs. Granted, his running mate was no picnic, but it was the lesser of two evils. And now with the continued war on terror(total crock of shit in my opinion, like war on drugs, always been there, always gonna be there) people who voted on him are having second thoughts. Too late now jackasses! Thank sweet jesus he will be gone soon, but not before he has screwed up as many peoples lives as possible.

[chillwill]

How are the neighborhoods up there, I may just follow in the footsteps of some of my fellow americans after the elections, and become Candian. Better to be caught in a snow storm than a shit storm, snow is cleaner :D

[AB-matt]

If you come to Canada, Toronto/Brampton specifically, please don't raid our Tim Horton's!! we have pride in our Ice Caps :P

[D-XXX]

matt, that gorilla face makes me smile

i'm in toronto, i'll have to come and visit AB headquarters bring rob a hot sloppy joe ... i know rob loves them slopppppy

[AB-matt]

Hey D,

I'm glad I can put a smile on your face. I guess when you see me you'll be smiling a lot :).

I never knew you were in Toronto :P. Hey, just because rob's the big guy doesn't mean you can't feed me sloppy joes :lol:

If you come by one day, do bring some greek food, i'll make it up to you 8). By the way, are you a tim hortons fantatic like myself? :wink:

[AB-Rob]

I love my country, but politicians screw it up. Me and a friend discussed this at length during election times. After seeing what Bush was after when he got his first term we knew if he made it back in we would be in a world of shit. America screwed itself. If we had gotten off our asses and got rid of him we would not be dealing with this bs. Granted, his running mate was no picnic, but it was the lesser of two evils. And now with the continued war on terror(total crock of shit in my opinion, like war on drugs, always been there, always gonna be there) people who voted on him are having second thoughts. Too late now jackasses! Thank sweet jesus he will be gone soon, but not before he has screwed up as many peoples lives as possible.

Your dead on the nose. I was praying George bush would be gone with.

[AB-Rob]

How are the neighborhoods up there, I may just follow in the footsteps of some of my fellow americans after the elections, and become Candian. Better to be caught in a snow storm than a shit storm, snow is cleaner :D

Haha well depends what part of Canada your in.

If you like snow, come to Toronto EH.

[AB-Rob]

[quote="D-XXX"]matt, that gorilla face makes me smile

i'm in toronto, i'll have to come and visit AB headquarters bring rob a hot sloppy joe ... i know rob loves them slopppppy[quote]

I love joe when he's sloppy.

[Movie Guy]

When darn first told me about this new law way back when, I thought the US government was not seriously considering it. But this has gone too far. It is further evidence the government is intruding on our rights. First they want to regulate paid services, and not they are ruining the privacy of adult stars.

Whatever you want to call them: actors, performers...or even whores - it doesn't matter. They are still people and deserve their privacy.

[AB-Rob]

When darn first told me about this new law way back when, I thought the US government was not seriously considering it. But this has gone too far. It is further evidence the government is intruding on our rights. First they want to regulate paid services, and not they are ruining the privacy of adult stars.

Whatever you want to call them: actors, performers...or even whores - it doesn't matter. They are still people and deserve their privacy.


your in canada your ok :)

you dont need to hide under the bed.

[darnpj]

Hey Rob,

I would not hide under the bed anyway! I have not done anything wrong and have nothing to fear and if there are arrest on this issue i feel that unless it is a clear and flagrant show of unresponsible webmanship the case can be beat in court!
I have too many pics with the Keeper Of Records listed and some absolutley refuse to give me the necessary info so i will be unable to use the content! SO WHAT! It is old and i dont use it anyway, but i have been in this biz for a number of years now and i have hundreds and hundreds of galleries still being shown. My God how is someone suppose to remember and have all of those things at hand with crashed machines and all the problems that go along with this BIZ! BUT the fact that you are in Canada may not mean you have nothing to fear?
If your content is shown in the states they will get someone and will go to any lengths to do it. So says the lawyer i have hired on retainer! And remember the old doghouses they use to put up on MSN free sites that got shut down? Well i think that is possible or only if it is flagrant i mean a site that shows all of the babes who look 15 and exactly what are all of the NEW changes? I have yet to see what they all are>? Can anyone show me what we are expected to do all of it>?
I just purchased over 800.00 in brand new mpegs and they come with all of the 2257 info and it is clean I will be posting new mpegs on Innocent and i will be happy to shoot a zip to QA or whoever i need to with the proof. I may close all but Innocent Iam sick and face more pain and illness and i have no help with any of this new BS.
But if something happens and one of the many AB webbies get zapped then watch out they will be in all of out sites. While iam yapping about it i need a GOOD webmaster to do a bit of tweaking on my site Innocent-Teens? I mean replace the header and maybe some color scheme changes and i have all the rest covered but if ya want to make a few extra bucks then let me know! 8) Luck To Us All!

[AB-Rob]

Hey Rob,

I would not hide under the bed anyway! I have not done anything wrong and have nothing to fear and if there are arrest on this issue i feel that unless it is a clear and flagrant show of unresponsible webmanship the case can be beat in court!
I have too many pics with the Keeper Of Records listed and some absolutley refuse to give me the necessary info so i will be unable to use the content! SO WHAT! It is old and i dont use it anyway, but i have been in this biz for a number of years now and i have hundreds and hundreds of galleries still being shown. My God how is someone suppose to remember and have all of those things at hand with crashed machines and all the problems that go along with this BIZ! BUT the fact that you are in Canada may not mean you have nothing to fear?
If your content is shown in the states they will get someone and will go to any lengths to do it. So says the lawyer i have hired on retainer! And remember the old doghouses they use to put up on MSN free sites that got shut down? Well i think that is possible or only if it is flagrant i mean a site that shows all of the babes who look 15 and exactly what are all of the NEW changes? I have yet to see what they all are>? Can anyone show me what we are expected to do all of it>?
I just purchased over 800.00 in brand new mpegs and they come with all of the 2257 info and it is clean I will be posting new mpegs on Innocent and i will be happy to shoot a zip to QA or whoever i need to with the proof. I may close all but Innocent Iam sick and face more pain and illness and i have no help with any of this new BS.
But if something happens and one of the many AB webbies get zapped then watch out they will be in all of out sites. While iam yapping about it i need a GOOD webmaster to do a bit of tweaking on my site Innocent-Teens? I mean replace the header and maybe some color scheme changes and i have all the rest covered but if ya want to make a few extra bucks then let me know! 8) Luck To Us All!

im not afraid because that new law is unconstitutional

so right now all i can say is F YOU USA .

canada wouldnt allow it because theyre asking to release confidential information of people. USA doesnt care about peoples private info, like they dojnt care about many other things

but at this point business goes on and i could care less what laws USA has.

it will be next to impossible to get all 2257 documents. we have 0 documents so far and the deadline is 2 days away

PARTY ON.

[Supafly]

In the EU we have the European Constitution which guarantees the right to a persons privacy. I'm sure models would not want their personal details made public which the 2257 regulations require. 2257 is contrary to ECHR and the Data Protection Act.

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In essence, the incorporation of Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights (the Convention) into UK law by the Human Rights Act 1998 (HRA) creates a general right to respect for privacy where none previously existed. Article 8 offers general protection for a person’s private and family life, home and correspondence from arbitrary interference by the State. This right affects a large number of areas of life ranging from surveillance to sexual identity - it is framed extremely broadly. However, the right to respect for these aspects of privacy under Article 8 is qualified. This means that interferences by the State can be permissible, but such interferences must be justified and satisfy certain conditions.

The requirement of proportionality is often colloquially described as ‘not using a sledgehammer to crack a nut’. In essence, this means that the nature and extent of each interference must be judged against the end it is meant to achieve and any interference with your rights under Article 8 that goes further than is necessary may well be unlawful.
-

2257...kiss my ass :D

[Supafly]

Further, any interference with the right to respect for private and family life, the home and correspondence by public authorities must now also be justifiable in accordance with the tests in Article 8.

[AB-Rob]

i never thought about it like that

video surveillance

security companies would have to keep recording keeping as well? or does 2257 only deal with porn

[kmdguy]

Hey Rob,

I would not hide under the bed anyway! I have not done anything wrong and have nothing to fear and if there are arrest on this issue i feel that unless it is a clear and flagrant show of unresponsible webmanship the case can be beat in court!
I have too many pics with the Keeper Of Records listed and some absolutley refuse to give me the necessary info so i will be unable to use the content! SO WHAT! It is old and i dont use it anyway, but i have been in this biz for a number of years now and i have hundreds and hundreds of galleries still being shown. My God how is someone suppose to remember and have all of those things at hand with crashed machines and all the problems that go along with this BIZ! BUT the fact that you are in Canada may not mean you have nothing to fear?
If your content is shown in the states they will get someone and will go to any lengths to do it. So says the lawyer i have hired on retainer! And remember the old doghouses they use to put up on MSN free sites that got shut down? Well i think that is possible or only if it is flagrant i mean a site that shows all of the babes who look 15 and exactly what are all of the NEW changes? I have yet to see what they all are>? Can anyone show me what we are expected to do all of it>?
I just purchased over 800.00 in brand new mpegs and they come with all of the 2257 info and it is clean I will be posting new mpegs on Innocent and i will be happy to shoot a zip to QA or whoever i need to with the proof. I may close all but Innocent Iam sick and face more pain and illness and i have no help with any of this new BS.
But if something happens and one of the many AB webbies get zapped then watch out they will be in all of out sites. While iam yapping about it i need a GOOD webmaster to do a bit of tweaking on my site Innocent-Teens? I mean replace the header and maybe some color scheme changes and i have all the rest covered but if ya want to make a few extra bucks then let me know! 8) Luck To Us All!


it will be next to impossible to get all 2257 documents. we have 0 documents so far and the deadline is 2 days away


Hey Rob, so are we to infer from that last sentence that there are no docs to be had so far? I am a US webmaster with several sites with AB and I use ONLY your content on my tour pages and members' pages. I am currently pointing to your 2257 page at http://www.adultbouncer.com/usc2257.php. I own several domain names which resolve to your servers to host. Since I didn't buy the content and therefore don't own a license agreement, etc. for it, are you suggesting that I am covered OK by just pointing to your 2257 page? Doesn't sound like I have a choice at this point if AB doesn't have any docs to give to their webmasters anyway. You guys in Canada would be fine, but they might want to arrest me, being in the US and not having all your docs anyway.

Biting my nails...

[Movie Guy]

your in canada your ok :)



yeah.....I'm in Canada.......not in the bahamas...... :wink:

[AB-Rob]

Hey Rob,

I would not hide under the bed anyway! I have not done anything wrong and have nothing to fear and if there are arrest on this issue i feel that unless it is a clear and flagrant show of unresponsible webmanship the case can be beat in court!
I have too many pics with the Keeper Of Records listed and some absolutley refuse to give me the necessary info so i will be unable to use the content! SO WHAT! It is old and i dont use it anyway, but i have been in this biz for a number of years now and i have hundreds and hundreds of galleries still being shown. My God how is someone suppose to remember and have all of those things at hand with crashed machines and all the problems that go along with this BIZ! BUT the fact that you are in Canada may not mean you have nothing to fear?
If your content is shown in the states they will get someone and will go to any lengths to do it. So says the lawyer i have hired on retainer! And remember the old doghouses they use to put up on MSN free sites that got shut down? Well i think that is possible or only if it is flagrant i mean a site that shows all of the babes who look 15 and exactly what are all of the NEW changes? I have yet to see what they all are>? Can anyone show me what we are expected to do all of it>?
I just purchased over 800.00 in brand new mpegs and they come with all of the 2257 info and it is clean I will be posting new mpegs on Innocent and i will be happy to shoot a zip to QA or whoever i need to with the proof. I may close all but Innocent Iam sick and face more pain and illness and i have no help with any of this new BS.
But if something happens and one of the many AB webbies get zapped then watch out they will be in all of out sites. While iam yapping about it i need a GOOD webmaster to do a bit of tweaking on my site Innocent-Teens? I mean replace the header and maybe some color scheme changes and i have all the rest covered but if ya want to make a few extra bucks then let me know! 8) Luck To Us All!


it will be next to impossible to get all 2257 documents. we have 0 documents so far and the deadline is 2 days away


Hey Rob, so are we to infer from that last sentence that there are no docs to be had so far? I am a US webmaster with several sites with AB and I use ONLY your content on my tour pages and members' pages. I am currently pointing to your 2257 page at http://www.adultbouncer.com/usc2257.php. I own several domain names which resolve to your servers to host. Since I didn't buy the content and therefore don't own a license agreement, etc. for it, are you suggesting that I am covered OK by just pointing to your 2257 page? Doesn't sound like I have a choice at this point if AB doesn't have any docs to give to their webmasters anyway. You guys in Canada would be fine, but they might want to arrest me, being in the US and not having all your docs anyway.

Biting my nails...

The hosting is on our servers so it should be ok.

but since you have domain names and theyre registered to you, you might want to change that.

we can put our company name under your domain names so that way your name is no where. we will only do this if you our using our content.

we are doing this for webmasters.

[darnpj]

Hey Rob,

Sounds great and i have just a bit of my own content on Innocent-Teens.net but I will remove it and i have only AB content on all of my sites but 1 and that is http://www.fetish-asylum.com and i can get rid of that also if it means less hassle here with this BS! Altho the content is all legal I will remove it as i have 4 or 5 Domains listed with your DNS! What do i need to do? :?: Luck

[babydred]

...we can put our company name under your domain names so that way your name is no where. we will only do this if you our using our content.

we are doing this for webmasters.Sign me up for this Rob.

Where can we find the whois information we should be using? My name is still listed as registrant, but i need the rest of the info.

Should we put AB as the organization, which is an option to fill right under the registrant name?

I use Go Daddy for my domainnames if this helps.

Thanks,
Dred

[darnpj]

Hey Dredster,

Yep same here Rob I use GoDaddy too! 8)

[AB-Rob]

Hey Rob,

Sounds great and i have just a bit of my own content on Innocent-Teens.net but I will remove it and i have only AB content on all of my sites but 1 and that is http://www.fetish-asylum.com and i can get rid of that also if it means less hassle here with this BS! Altho the content is all legal I will remove it as i have 4 or 5 Domains listed with your DNS! What do i need to do? :?: Luck

send me an email with info

[AB-Rob]

Hey Dredster,

Yep same here Rob I use GoDaddy too! 8)

send me an email with info

[darnpj]

Hey Rob,

Info sent via email! 8) Luck

[babydred]

Email sent!

Thanks Rob!

[AB-Rob]

ill wait on these changes

thre is some good news around 1:30pm tomorrow regarding 2257

lets all pray.

[Monty]

ill wait on these changes

thre is some good news around 1:30pm tomorrow regarding 2257

lets all pray.

What was the news ?

[AB-Rob]

DENVER — The Free Speech Coalition entered into an agreement Thursday with the Justice Department to suspend enforcement of re-issued federal record-keeping and labeling requirements for FSC members.
U.S. District Court Judge Walker D. Miller signed the order after the FSC and Justice Department officials struck an 11th hour deal Wednesday afternoon.

A U.S. Attorneys Office source told XBiz that the parties will hold a preliminary injunction hearing on Aug. 8.


We are a FSC member. LETS PARTY :)

[babydred]

What was the news ?

DENVER - The Free Speech Coalition (FSC) announced today a stipulation between the parties in Free Speech Coalition et al v. Alberto Gonzales, under which the U.S. Department of Justice agrees that the regulations relating to the federal record-keeping and labeling law, 18 U.S.C. §2257, will not be enforced against plaintiffs and all FSC members until September 7, 2005.

The U.S. District Court in Denver will hold a preliminary injunction hearing on August 8, 2005, after which the judge will determine whether to issue a further injunction.

Specifically, the DOJ will not conduct any inspections or pursue any claims with regard to the plaintiffs and their members, but reserves the right to inspect and prosecute anyone who is not a plaintiff or FSC member.

According to the stipulation, agreed to and issued as an order of the Court today, the DOJ, will submit any entity it intends to inspect to a Special Master who will then check the entity’s name against a sealed and confidential FSC membership list. The Special Master will be appointed by the Court, with the consent of the parties, and will be under a specific obligation to maintain the confidentiality of the FSC membership list.

A master list of members will be submitted to the Special Master on Wednesday June 29, 2005, and will include all FSC members as of 2:00 p.m. PST, Saturday June 25, 2005.

At no time will the DOJ have direct access to the FSC membership list, which will remain under seal.

All FSC members should advise the FSC office of all of their dbas by Monday, June 27, 2005, so that the master list will be as complete as possible.

On behalf of the entire adult entertainment industry, the FSC acknowledges the bravery and integrity of our co-plaintiffs, New Beginnings and Dave Cummings. We trust that the industry appreciates their willingness to take on the fight for justice on behalf of all of us.

The FSC also expresses appreciation to our extraordinary legal team: H. Louis Sirkin, Paul Cambria, Art Schwartz, Jennifer Kingsley, Roger Wilcox, Michael Gross, Barry Covert and Michael Deal. Special acknowledgement also to Michael Murray, whose agreement with the DoJ in the Connections Magazine case in Cleveland, Ohio, laid the groundwork for this agreement.

Over the course of the next few months, there will be continuing proceedings, including discovery, that culminate with the August 8, 2005 preliminary injunction hearing. While we r

Remain optimistic regarding our ultimate success in the litigation, the FSC encourages everyone to try to comply with the law to the extent that it is possible.

Any questions can be emailed either to execdir@freespeechcoalition.com or mlfreridge@hotmail.com. Please be patient. We ask that people not both call and email, as we will respond as soon as possible to all inquiries.

For further information, visit www.freespeechcoalition.com.

[darnpj]

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

WHEW what a week this has been! I even made some changes to 2 of my sites! Oh well at least we are safe for now but if you have a site outside of a network it could still be bad for ya i guess! 8) Luck FINALLY!!!

[Monty]

lol, so anyone who pays $300 to join fsc is above the law for a few months ? That's kinda weird. Aren't laws made for EVERYONE ?

[alex22]

What will happen after the 3 month period?

[AB-Rob]

we are a fsc member

but in the 3rd month of course there will be 2257 changes and most likely they will be less strict than they are now.

we will wait and see.