WE WILL BE BEGIN TO INTRODUCE PRE-CUT SAMPLE CLIPS

[AB-Rob]

Our content guy is going to begin cutting sample clips from new DVDs and onwards.

We will take time sequences from different scenes within new DVDs and cut them up into 30 second sample clips. So for example we take 6 minutes from Scene 1 DVD 100 and create 12 samples.

We will offer them in XVID and MPG format. This will speed up the process of creating galleries for webmasters.

Let me know your thoughts.

[Aussiemade]

Our content guy is going to begin cutting sample clips from new DVDs and onwards.

We will take time sequences from different scenes within new DVDs and cut them up into 30 second sample clips. So for example we take 6 minutes from Scene 1 DVD 100 and create 12 samples.

We will offer them in XVID and MPG format. This will speed up the process of creating galleries for webmasters.

Let me know your thoughts.

Sounds good Rob.

Are they just going to be random selections, or will your content guy be going to understand what it is he's selecting? Most of us, I presume, select the sequences to cut, because we believe that's what will entice the customer to want to see more. If the selections are just going to be random cuts, not viewed by the person making the edit, then they may not be worth much.

[Aussiemade]

Our content guy is going to begin cutting sample clips from new DVDs and onwards.

We will take time sequences from different scenes within new DVDs and cut them up into 30 second sample clips. So for example we take 6 minutes from Scene 1 DVD 100 and create 12 samples.

We will offer them in XVID and MPG format. This will speed up the process of creating galleries for webmasters.

Let me know your thoughts.

I presume too, they will be available to download via FTP?

[D-XXX]

DONT DO IT !

thats BAD NEWS. that will get AB galleries banned when everyone will be submitting the same samples. no diversity - it's the same reason why mgps dont accept hosted galleries.

you know how lazy webmasters are getting nowadays. the more you make it easier for the hard working webmasters the more opportunities you give the cheaters.

i say forget about the samples and just keep the new content coming.

most of us reduce the screen size and times - don't waste your time.

[Aussiemade]

DONT DO IT !

thats BAD NEWS. that will get AB galleries banned when everyone will be submitting the same samples. no diversity - it's the same reason why mgps dont accept hosted galleries.

you know how lazy webmasters are getting nowadays. the more you make it easier for the hard working webmasters the more opportunities you give the cheaters.

i say forget about the samples and just keep the new content coming.

most of us reduce the screen size and times - don't waste your time.

Very good point. I was looking at it from the perspective of having something to link to from my preview site, and not something I would submit to MGP's, but you're spot on. A flood of the same previews to MGP's would be bad news.

[redalert]

DONT DO IT !

thats BAD NEWS. that will get AB galleries banned when everyone will be submitting the same samples. no diversity - it's the same reason why mgps dont accept hosted galleries.

you know how lazy webmasters are getting nowadays. the more you make it easier for the hard working webmasters the more opportunities you give the cheaters.

i say forget about the samples and just keep the new content coming.

most of us reduce the screen size and times - don't waste your time.

100% agree with all you've written there. This could cause us a lot more problems than it solves, especially for those of use who submit galleries regularly.

It doesn't take much effort to download movies, compress and chop them so leave things as they are.

[AB-Rob]

Well I only thought of this because we dont give new webmasters access to the content to create a site so they have no samples to use to create a site.

[D-XXX]

lol accept no new webmasters and disable non signup generating ones. there will no second coming of jesus to porn, i am the chosen one. lol. being a webmaster should be like any other job show your portfolio of work and resume, then you can become an AB webmaster.

PLUSS!! if your site cant get 4 signups in one week of being on the new sites list then you shouldnt be making porn web sites. when you get your 4 signups then you can get your id + pass and make your samples.

[cbouchar]

Well I only thought of this because we dont give new webmasters access to the content to create a site so they have no samples to use to create a site.

I think that makes sense. The only way that this would not make life difficult for other webmasters (getting blacklisted by MGPs for submissions using the same clips all the time) would be for the pre-made clips to be available ONLY to NEW webmasters. Once a person has had their site for a week or two, they should have been able to gain the necessary signups for a membership and won't need the pre-made clips anymore.

If established webmasters, like the self proclaimed jesus of porn D-XXX, start using the clips, then the MGPs would get bombarded by the same stuff all the time. Limit the clips to only new webmasters and there will be a LOT fewer uses of the clips while still giving new webmasters a fair chance to make submissions and gain signups, without relying upon the New Sites list.

[Aussiemade]

Well I only thought of this because we dont give new webmasters access to the content to create a site so they have no samples to use to create a site.

G'day Rob,

If you could stipulate the clips could NOT be used for submissions to TGP/MGP's, then I think that would be good.

My original comments were based on the clips being used for linking from the preview sites only, but the comments about them being submitted to MGP's is very valid. If you allow one Webmaster group, such as new Webmasters, to submit to MGP's, then you open up a bag of worms. How do you control that? If, however, you make a hard and fast rule that says if you submit to TGP/MGP's, then you lose your account, I think the preview clips are a great idea.

Newbies need content, I think that goes without saying. The other benefit is, if you make preview clips available to all Webmasters, it allows us to demonstrate the diverse range of Movies available on AB.

Preview clips sell Memberships, let's maximise our opportunities with the preview clips, but limit the distribution to use only on preview sites. (I don't mean host them on the preview sites, I mean link to them from the preview sites).

[cbouchar]

How do you control that?

I don't think that is something that we would need to worry about. That is something for the database managers at AB to figure out - giving access to preview clips at the movie selection area. That area is already setup in a similar way by allowing the only Pics.zip to new webmasters!

Once a webmaster has been with AB for 2 weeks (for example), their ability to download the sample clips for the 4 movies they chose (primarily to get the Pics.zip) would dissolve and the links would no longer be visible. They wouldn't get any more from that point forward. This gives them clips for 4 movies that they can use for submitting to galleries. It's enough to get them on their feet, earning signups (not having them handed to them from the New Sites list) and get experience submitting to MGPs.

Rob said that these clips would be primarily made for new webmasters. In my opinion, more experienced ones shouldn't need AB to make the clips for them. Yes, it would be helpful, but it's not necessary. New webmasters, on the other hand, find it really difficult to advertise without clips. The Vidcaps that are in the Pics.zip aren't high enough quality for TGPs and there aren't many other ways to get advertising without sample clips that aren't going to cost a bundle up front.

but limit the distribution to use only on preview sites
If this is done, then AB would be making clips for the preview sites and then webmasters would still have to make their own clips for MGPs. Why have AB duplicate this work? If you want clips for your preview site, why not link to your galleries that have your own custom-made clips?

[Aussiemade]

How do you control that?

I don't think that is something that we would need to worry about.

Yep, I know that.


Rob said that these clips would be primarily made for new webmasters. In my opinion, more experienced ones shouldn't need AB to make the clips for them. Yes, it would be helpful, but it's not necessary. New webmasters, on the other hand, find it really difficult to advertise without clips. The Vidcaps that are in the Pics.zip aren't high enough quality for TGPs and there aren't many other ways to get advertising without sample clips that aren't going to cost a bundle up front.

If you're starting an Adult Site, then you should be in a position to bring something along with you, rather than rely Wholey and Soley on what AB can give you. I didn't start my Site with nothing.

but limit the distribution to use only on preview sites
If this is done, then AB would be making clips for the preview sites and then webmasters would still have to make their own clips for MGPs. Why have AB duplicate this work? If you want clips for your preview site, why not link to your galleries that have your own custom-made clips?

Irrespective of AB making the clips just for Newbies, or also for existing Webmasters, they will still have to do the work.

I already link to my own clips, the point I was making was one of diversity. If AB make sample clips of Movies I don't already have, or haven't made previews for, (and I haven't made previews for every Movie I have available) then that increases my opportunity to show the diversity of Movies available. We all say, or at least we all should say, there are over 1,000 Movies available for download as a Member of AB. Demonstrating that point, by way of making more previews available, should be good for business. :D

[AB-Rob]

What about having galleries already made by us with clips selected by us?

[cbouchar]

What about having galleries already made by us with clips selected by us?

I think you would have to specify who these will be available to. Will they be available to all webmasters or just the newbies?

If you're thinking of making them for all webmasters, why? if a webmaster is able to make their own site, why wouldn't they be able to make their own galleries? I think that AB would be doing too much of the work at that point. What next, submitting the galleries for us also? I don't always agree with D-XXX calling everyone lazy, but I do think that there is a line to be drawn where AB has to leave the work to the webmasters themselves. If AB is going to give pre-built sites (sitebuilder) with content already linked, and premade clips and galleries, what is the webmaster actually responsible for? Submitting the galleries and recieving the cheque. Am I missing something here? Should the webmaster really get a 50% cut for doing 10% of the work?

That being said, if these galleries were made available only to new webmasters, to help them advertise their new site, I wouldn't oppose it as much. However, I still think that the clips would be enough of a push, galleries are easy to make - tedious, but easy.[/quote]

[D-XXX]

naw. how about a hosted gallery system for established webmasters. NOT EVERYONE but top tier webmasters. no one will ever push sub par sites and its a waste of time to do so. set up a hosted gallery system on invitation only.

i think having hosted galleries for strong sites will attract mgp owners to promote the AB program. and then that way you can get rid of world war 2 sites - the last time they've been updated, or designed in 1942.

AB is as strong as its weakest links. Better to cater to serious proven webmasters than guys with the SPanish Fly eye

[AB-Rob]

LOL Spanish fly is in our guiness book of world records , its a classic

ya we will setup hosted galleries for new webmasters only after that they must create their own

and have a hosted gallery system for premium sites.

[Honeysuckle]

I don't think that having pre-created clips would really be a problem.
Let's say AB would create 12 clips per scene.
We could still mix them and besides the galleries would not be the same.

I think it'd be a problem if AB supplied complete galleries, but I don't see a problem with only the clips (and full-sized screenshots of the clips, please).

I mean, face it, even if I license a set - as I do quite often - there will be other people who've done the same. On my TGP I frequently get submissions with content that I myself have licensed. Is that aproblem. Not neccessarily. Or rather: Only if the gallerydesign was identcial as well.

Just my 2€c,

Honeysuckle

[AB-Rob]

Ya are right.

We want to supply clips to new webmasters only so they have tools to promote.